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Spuds Chudley's avatar

All good points. For the people at the bottom of American society, the road to hell was absolutely paved with good intentions. The welfare programs of the 60s destroyed the family unit for the people who needed it most. Decriminalization of hard drugs mostly worsened the problems it purported to solve. The “defund the police” movement led to a massive surge in homicide deaths among the black population. Legalizing shoplifting just ended up depriving many neighborhoods of their local grocery stores, who could not be expected to subsidize theft. In every case, policies meant to help the downtrodden and exploited mostly just enabled the small minority of predators among them.

You make a good point that fixing law enforcement is only half the problem. Everyone needs the ability to contribute to society through meaningful work. Economic protectionism and restrictions on immigration would go a long way towards restoring the middle class dream for the poorest quarter of society. But because these policies would slightly hurt the wealthiest quarter, they are vigorously opposed by the so-called progressives who belong to that class. They would prefer to spend money on counterproductive welfare programs that primarily enrich their friends who work for government agencies and NGOs.

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Hera's avatar

I think this post might confuse some people who expect the focus to be on how bad it is that disproportional justice exists-"and that's why we should penalize insurance companies more who in fact do alot more net harm than one murderer".

But pointing out the hypocrisy of healthcare is just as valid as the hypocrisy in the policing of crime, and I think both hypocrisies should be addressed.

They're two different examples of asymmetrical justice but both valid. Interestingly, both the right and the left conveniently ignore one or the other.

The solution to one is actually quite easy, and you said it yourself: emulate Asian countries (or El Salvador). Tough on crime actually reduces crime who would've thought.

The solution to the other is not nearly as easy, and downright impossible if policies like open borders immigration continue.

I will say I actually don't really believe in "equal justice". I think a doctor should get care instead of a homeless person if you really need to choose one or the other. Equal moral worth does NOT exist--the state would trade a civilian for the president in a heartbeat and that's entirely valid. I think people don't really think about justice coherently and why it exists and for what purpose. That doesn't make murder ok, of a homeless person or of a CEO. But to pretend one *should* be just as important as another is a bit naive I think.

Maybe in Utopia everyone has equal worth. But in a reality where people value resources, people who possess or contribute more resources get more worth. Makes sense to me.

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